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ja gdybym robił cykl (a moze juz niedługo...) to robiłbym 14-21 dni 20mg Nolvy, ew jakas wieksza dawka na poczatku (np pare dni po 40mg)
+ ew proviron
Klomifen dla mnie fogle nie istnieje
+ ew proviron
Klomifen dla mnie fogle nie istnieje
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dokladnie, tansza i przyjemniejsza...
jednak byloo jakies badanie nt tego ze moze cos mieszac w DNA.. w kazdym razie te 2-3 tyg nie powinny nic zrobic (raka sutka leczy sie latami)
jednak byloo jakies badanie nt tego ze moze cos mieszac w DNA.. w kazdym razie te 2-3 tyg nie powinny nic zrobic (raka sutka leczy sie latami)
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Both tamoxifen and clomiphene are metabolized to other related compounds which can be estrogenic or anti-estrogenic. Both act as estrogens in bone tissue, perhaps after metabolism, which is a very useful property for female patients, for whom these drugs are usually intended. (Otherwise, an anti-estrogen could lead to osteoporosis.) Tamoxifen seems particularly prone to acting as an estrogen in the liver, which may account for reduced IGF-1 levels seen when this drug is taken.
Users generally seem to agree that when tamoxifen is used, gains are a little less than what otherwise would be expected. (Let’s not take this too far though: many people have made great gains while using tamoxifen as an anti-estrogen. And it’s always hard to say what "would" have been the case if a drug had not been included.) I’ve heard nothing but good about clomiphene, though.
Proviron, an anabolic steroid, is particularly interesting. I suspect that it not only acts as an antiaromatase but in an unknown DHT-like anti-estrogenic manner. This might involve estrogen receptor downregulation for example. In any case, aromatase inhibition and/or Clomid don’t seem to give the same effect on appearance and muscle hardness as when Proviron is included.
Users generally seem to agree that when tamoxifen is used, gains are a little less than what otherwise would be expected. (Let’s not take this too far though: many people have made great gains while using tamoxifen as an anti-estrogen. And it’s always hard to say what "would" have been the case if a drug had not been included.) I’ve heard nothing but good about clomiphene, though.
Proviron, an anabolic steroid, is particularly interesting. I suspect that it not only acts as an antiaromatase but in an unknown DHT-like anti-estrogenic manner. This might involve estrogen receptor downregulation for example. In any case, aromatase inhibition and/or Clomid don’t seem to give the same effect on appearance and muscle hardness as when Proviron is included.
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czyli
nolva
+ proviron
+ ewentualnie hcg w wiekszych cyklach
clomid mysle 10-12 tab na ruszenie przysaki wrzucic na sam koniec cyklu
nolva
+ proviron
+ ewentualnie hcg w wiekszych cyklach
clomid mysle 10-12 tab na ruszenie przysaki wrzucic na sam koniec cyklu
Expert w dziale DOPING
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ja jestem za nolvą jako podstawą,
proviron dla komfortu i jezeli siada psycha po cyklu (choć na clomidzie napewno siada bardziej)
a hcg jak maleją klejnoty i tyle...
proviron dla komfortu i jezeli siada psycha po cyklu (choć na clomidzie napewno siada bardziej)
a hcg jak maleją klejnoty i tyle...
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om a co myslisz o dorzuceniu w 8 tyg mojego cyklu 10-12 tab clomidu zamiast kilku szotów hcg po 500ui
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jestem za nolva 1-7 40 8-14 20 powinno wystarczyc .
z tego co wiem , a wiem to lifter tez tylko proponuje nolve.
z tego co wiem , a wiem to lifter tez tylko proponuje nolve.
członek.mafia.hardcor.pl
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